Anne Will: “Scholes is playing for time. Ukraine does not want to win this war.”

DrThree months have passed since Russian forces invaded Ukraine. Since then, martial law has entered into force in Ukraine, which parliament in Kyiv extended for another 90 days at the weekend. It is clear there that the war will go on for a long time.

How successful Ukraine will be in defending itself against Russian attacks in the east of the country in the coming weeks depends in large part on military support from the West, including from Germany. But that is a long time coming. Is Chancellor Olaf Schultz deliberately delaying the handover of arms, as rumored by some voices in the opposition?

Anne Will discussed this with her guests on Sunday evening. Michael Roth (SPD) defended the course of the federal government in the studio against Rodrich Kiziotter (CDU), German-Ukrainian propagandist Marina Weisband, left-wing politician Jan van Aken, and military expert Carlo Masala.

Carlo Masala (Professor of International Politics at the Federal Armed Forces University in Munich), Marina Weisband (German-Ukrainian Propaganda), Michael Roth (SPD), Ann Weil (Ministry of Defense)erator), Roderich Kiesewetter (CDU), Jan van Aken (DIE LINKE).

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At first, hostess Michael Roth is confronted by the war aims recently drafted by the Ukrainian government. They want to fight militarily and diplomatically to ensure that Ukraine is fully restored with all its territorial integrity. But is this also the course of the federal government? In a speech, Olaf Schultz merely said that Ukraine must “live”. In any form left open.

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Roth saw no contradiction in this. Ukraine must exist as a free, democratic and sovereign country while preserving its territorial integrity. This is how I will determine the victory of Ukraine, ”said Lowell, who, of course, immediately called the elephant in the room. I asked: “Including Donbass and Crimea?”, And Ruth already avoided the question: “I find it difficult to advise Ukraine from abroad. Ukrainians must decide for themselves how the war will end.”

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Carlo Masala became more vocal and criticized the restricted communications regarding the aims of the war. “There was no serious discussion among the Allies about which line of war was actually being followed in Ukraine.”

The military defeat of Russia is as likely as a permanent weakening or a mere withdrawal from the occupied territories. Nor is it clear what borders should be used to guarantee Ukraine’s existence. “How far would the EU and NATO want to go? This has not been clearly defined before.”

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Weisband, who once again appeared very realistic and reflected that evening, was disappointed by Schulz’s hesitant attitude. I would have liked to hear the chancellor say it directly: “I want Ukraine to win.” It would be helpful for the Federal Chancellor to support this unconditionally.”

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But not only the objectives of the war are not clear. German support for Ukraine also raises many questions. So far, only a tiny fraction of the announced arms deliveries are on the way. Roderich Kiesewetter made serious allegations against Weil in the direction of Olaf Scholz, who hesitated for no apparent reason despite the Bundestag’s support.

Ukraine needed armored personnel carriers and main battle tanks, and the first could have been delivered long ago. So far, the CDU politician said in earnest, zero has been delivered. Instead, the devices that Ukraine does not need at all are discussed. “I don’t understand our chancellor. I think he’s playing for time. I’m afraid the chancellor doesn’t want Ukraine to win this war.”

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rum. The group acknowledged Kiesewetter’s steep-sided thesis with a moment of icy silence. “Now I’m out,” Will then tries to catch the ball and pass it to Weisband. “I can’t look inside the chancellor’s head,” she replied, “but in Ukraine this is now taken for granted.” You can’t expect much from Germany anymore. It doesn’t see a clear line from the federal government. Perhaps there are old Russian entanglements at play, but she doesn’t want to speculate.

“We chose fear according to the German spirit”

And the intervention of Masala in an interview may be fear of a nuclear escalation. After all, Schulze has repeatedly warned about this in interviews. How do I deal with this? Do you let it paralyze you or grope your way forward? “We chose fear according to the German spirit,” he said.

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Jan van Aken repeatedly tried to accommodate his pleas against handing over guns and promoted tougher and more consistent punishments in the show. We transfer 320 million euros to Russia every day. “This is the opposite of sanctions,” he said. From his point of view, sanctions are much more effective, but instead of that, for the past three months, the only talk about weapons has been.

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Roth was adamantly opposed and noted the numerous sanctions packages that had already been identified. Weisspend also cautioned against repeating old mistakes and letting Putin find his way back: “I understand all the people who are afraid out there. The best antidote to fear is not giving everything to the aggressor, it’s resilience. Allowing injustice is the greatest escalation spiral.”

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